All Clud / Dumbarton Rock

All Clud  / Dumbarton Rock
All Clud / Dumbarton Rock

Sunday, 1 May 2016

The Coming of the Norse

The Norse burned Dumbarton after a four month  siege in 870 [42]. After this, the centre of power of the Cumbrians moved to Govan and from the mid 8th Century, we see the flourishing of the Govan sculpture school, with strong Norse influence, that can still be seen today in Govan Church [31]. Govan became the ecclesiastical centre of the Cumbrian kingdom. On the other bank of the Clyde, an important royal centre developed at Paisley [31]

In 872, Arthgal ap Dynfwal was killed at the instigation of the king of the Scots [42]
The Norse took York in 876. They had sacked Carlisle in 875, but Bailey feels it was a short lived affair and that it was around a quarter century before they began to settle in Cumberland and Westmorland [43].  Bailey also notes a flight of English nobles to the east from Cumberland, fleeing from ?Norse "pirates". Bailey sketches the different routes of the Norse settlers - those who had spent time among the Gaels in Ireland and Man, those Danes who had come up the Eden Valley from Yorkshire and some who had come directly from Norway. There is some evidence that Westmorland had a Norse lord by 974.

Fellows-Jensen notes that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle says that the Danes anchored in the Tyne raided agaisnt the Picts and against the Strathclyde Britons. She suggests they must have come across Cumberland and Dumfriesshire, but says there is no historical evidence of them settling at that time [44]. She also says, looking at the modern county of Cumbria that Scandinavian place-names are particularly dense in the valleys of the Kent and Eden and along the coastal plain.

The Norse were expelled from Dublin by the Irish in 902 [45] . They were led by Ragnall and for the next twelve years campaigned over Northumbria, Strathclyde and Scotland [45] At some point they began to settle on the west coast of Britain. The Welsh annals note Norsemen arriving in Anglesey, being driven out by the Welsh then settling around Chester. At this period we have two brief notes of Englishmen fleeing from pirates from the west coast over to the eastern part of Northumbria. These pirates were Norsemen who had been Gaelicised while in Ireland, or had Gaels with them, as shown in place and personal names from that period. Whithorn was abandoned as an episcopal see between 894 and 910 according to Woolf [8], possibly related to this influx of Norse-Gaels. Woolf wonders whether the Isle of Man acted as a centre for the Norse-Irish settlement and activity on the coasts of Lancashire, Cumberland, Dumfries and Galloway. He also notes that prior to this, Man had been British and possibly at that time ruled from Gwynedd.

Woolf says that the previously Northumbrian land west of the Pennines was in the hands of the Norse from the early 914. Ragnall, the Norse ruler, conquered the eastern part of Northumbria and York. In 920 a treaty was signed between Edward, King of England, Ragnall, the Norse ruler of Northumbria, the King of the Scots and the King of the Strathclyde Welsh.

By 927, however, the English had reconquered Northumbria and they met at Eamont Bridge (the boundary between Cumberland and Westmorland and known as Pund Eamont - the river name is English but the "Pund" seems to be the Cumbric pont "bridge". Here were Hywel king of the Welsh,  Owain king of the Cumbrians as well as Constanin, king of the Scots.  Another report says that Owain was from Gwent, but Owain ap Dynfwal was king of the Cumbrians between in the 930s  Woolf says it is possible that Owain of Gwent and Owain of the Cumbrians were both present and later scribes thought it was a duplication and erased one [8].  

Higham suggests that the Britons of Strathclyde (or Cumbria) turned from a position of war with the Norse, to one of alliance.  Athelstan campaigned against the Scots in 934 and in 937 there was the famous battle of Brunanburh with the Norse, Britons and Scots on one side and the Northumbrian English on the other [45] . The English were victorious.  The English campaigns against Cumbria in 945 and then again in 1000, arose, argues Higham and others, because of the policy of the Cumbrians to ally themselves with the Norse.  By the time the Normans take Carlisle in 1092, there is no Norse kingdom or power and there is no real trace of one in the 10th Century. However, Scandinavian place-names outnumber all others in Westmorland and most of Cumberland and are plentiful in eastern Dumfriesshire. The nomenclature of the Lake District is overwhelmingly Norse, though there are traces of British names and Cumbric terms such as mell (Welsh moel), latter (Welsh llethr), pen  (Welsh pen) being taken into the Scandinavianised English dialect. This settlement seems to have happened over a period of 100 to 120 years only. Higham argues that the dates of the primary settlements of the Norse are between 900-950 [45]

It has been argued that Eamont Bridge for the meeting place of the kings in 927    was chosen because it was the southern boundary of the Cumbrian kings. In local folklore, the of the meeting was at Dacre Castle (apparently there is a room still haunted by the kings there). Dacre had been a Northumbrian monastery (though its name is Brittonic). Dacre is around five miles west of Eamont Bridge.


The Norse colonisation of Cumbria south of the Solway seems to have been intense, in view of the place name evidence it left, but brief - from around 902 to 945 [46].

The Benn NY299194.

The Benn NY299194. The name is first recorded for this peak is on the OS Map First Series. Whaley suggests it may be an import from Scotland from the Gaelic beinn. I think it is more likely to be from the Cumbric equivalent of beinn, namely ban, later etymologised incorrectly to be a Scottish "ben." Otherwise from pen, meaning "top, summit, head or chief" in Welsh, but apparently taken into local dialect (and elswhere in England) to mean hill.

The definite article may be a relic of a Cumbric "ïr penn" but the b- bothers me and I tend to go with ban "peak" because of that. Though that leaves its own problems as Cumbric with the article would be ïr βann if it followed Welsh sound change chronology as detailed by Jackson (Jackson, 1953 699)and β did not become v until the early 12th Century. Given we feel Cumbric was more conservative than Welsh, (Jackson and James both suggest this (Jackson, 1953; A. G. James, 2011)) then I am happy that English speakers heard ïr βann as /ban/. 

I accept that the /a/ may have been modified to /e/ under the influence in the 19th Century period of the Victorian love of all things Highland.

Next to The Benn, is Benn Man. Man is used quite often in the Lake District to refer as a minor peak or feature on a mountain. It could be from a play on the English word "man" or it might be derived from the Cumbric equivalent of Welsh maen - a significant rock or stone.

Banna Fell (Copeland) NY104171

Banna Fell (Copeland) NY104171, Bannyfell 1609, Banafell, Benefell 1610. PNCu lists the name but does not discuss it (Armstrong et al., 1950). Whaley says the meaning is uncertain but it could be "banner in the sense of 'boundary marker'".

The fell is on the current boundary between Allerdale and Copeland boroughs which represents a much older boundary. However I think this is clearly equivalent to Welsh bannau "peaks" as in Bannau Brycheiniog, the Welsh name for the Brecon beacons.  The name is found in Britanny as ban (Deshayes, 1999: 42) and in Cornish names as ban (Padel, 1985: 16). James discusses the meaning of the element from the Celtic banno- / bannā (A. James, 2016). It is either masculine or feminine in Welsh, though in the Brecon Beacons clearly feminine. Banna Fell seems to represent the plural, in Old Welsh and Cumbric presumably *bannou  with rounded vowels namely  -öü  (A. James, 2016). This ending became -eu in Middle Welsh in the 8th Century. If Cumbric developed in the same way Banna Fell, but particularly the earlier spellings in Bannyfell and Benefell may represent a Cumbric plural  Banneu "peaks". A look at the map will show that Banna Fell runs west to east with four peaks in line.




Banna Fell is the lower fell in the middle distance. Crag Fell behind.

Friday, 29 April 2016

Aughertree NY 256 383

Aughertree  NY 256 383

Alcotewraye 1540, Alkatre 1580, Ancautre 1576, Ancautree Moor 1750, Awhatree 1777
PNCu gives an Old English Eald Cote + Norse (v)rá (nook). This last element seems to be productive in the Scandinavian influenced English dialect and is a common place-name element thereabouts, often as "wreay" or "ray". The realisation of vrá is usually /rɛi/ not /ri:/ so the last element might be simply tree i.d. the "Old Cottage by the Tree". Note there is no old form that preserves Anglian ald "old".

There are extensive prehistoric remains which are discussed here.  The interesting thing is that the local pronounciation is given as /æfətri·/ and Mannix & Whellan give Auhertree 1847.  

There is a Welsh place-name coetre meaning "homestead" from coed "wood" + tre "settlement, farm".  GPC gives the earliest extant literary example of Coetre(f) from the 12th Century.

To find coed as cot- in this area would be surprising,unless, as it usually appears as "ceit", unless it was a very late borrowing into English. However, an Allt Coetre is possible - "slope of the farmstead" where the Welsh / ɬ/ might have led to the ultimate pronunciation with /f/.

Another possibility is All Coetre where "all" meaning "rock" is not found in Welsh or Breton or Cornish. It is a perfectly possible Brittonic work and does seem to appear in the Cumbric area, e.g. - All Clud - Dumbarton Rock. The word is found in Gaelic, meaning rock - àl.

I then wondered whether because of the proximity to Ireby, the name contained Gaelic Achadh - "field" which is very common in Ireland and Scotland, but the early forms do not support this. 

If English, the/f/ may come from /aldkɔtri/ → /awkɔtri → aɔχɔtri → afətri/  (I don't believe any Cumbrian says /æfətri/). Or if it was Cumbric Allt Coetre /aɬt kɔitrɛ → aχɔtrɛ → afətri/

Inversion Compounds

Inversion compounds are nearly all found in Cumberland and Westmorland are thought to have arisen as names given by Scandinavian speakers influenced by Gaelic speech patterns. This is the consensus (Grant 2002) . There was clearly a Gaelic influence on the Scandinavians in Cumbria - the Introduction to Place Names of Cumberland gives a summary of this with a list of place-names where the normal Germanic syntax of Norse (and English) is replaced by Celtic syntax such as Gaelic (and Cumbric). Though there was much more Gaelic influence in what is today southern Scotland, these inversion compounds are not found there to such an extent, if at all (Williamson 1942). If we believe that Cumberland and parts of Westmorland retained a Cumbric speaking population, who learned English as a foreign language, why can't the inversion compounds arise from Cumbric substrate rather than Gaelic influence?

Though Place Names of Cumberland does give consideration to Cumbric or Brittonic, the Cumbrians as an ethnicity with their language have been overlooked or under-emphasised by most scholars. The consensus view is that Norsemen who had spent time among Gaels in Ireland, Scotland and Man later coined some of the place-names according to Gaelic speech habits. My suggestion, by wielding Occam's razor, is to say that Cumbrians, who learned Anglo-Norse as their own language died out, spoke the new language influenced by their native tongue. Consider Bewaldeth - apparently an inversion compound meaning Waltheof's "by" or farm, where Waltheof has an Anglo-Saxon name.  There is an account dating from 1794 (Hutchinson 1794) that Waldeof first Baron of Allerdale with his seat at Cockermouth gave Bewaldeth and other land to Waldeof son of Gilmyn and this would be around 1100 (though I can't find an extact date). Given the Norse first came from Ireland after they were expelled by Brian Boru after 902. The Gaelic influence on Norse settlers's speech habits seems to be unlikely to last nearly 200 years, just appearing intermittently and it doesn’t look like Bewaldeth's name was coined by Norsemen at all, but by people with English names. The only caveat to this is that Bewaldeth is not far from Ireby and Waldeof's father Gilmyn looks like he has a Gaelic name, or possibly the Norman French Guillemin?

I  don't think this detracts from my main point that inversion compounds are more likely to be from a Cumbric substrate than Norsemen occasionally remembering their glory days in Dublin.

Thursday, 28 April 2016

Aspatria NY 143 423


Aspatria  NY 143 423  Aspatric c1160, Aspatric, -k(e)  c 1160 in St Bees Cartulary. Espatric 1171-5, Ascpatric c 1220, As(ke)paterk 1279, Ask Patrick 1348, Estpateric 1224, Astpatrik 1292  then later Aspatry 1423-9, Asspatry 1488

PNCu suggest this is an inversion compound - that is a Germanic name formed using Celtic syntax and that it is askr Norse for an ash tree, with the personal name Patric - so Patrick's Ash tree - and the -patria ending is a learned spelling trying to assimilate it to Latin patria (Armstrong et al. 1950). Local dialect  "Spyatree" preserves the authentic pronounciation.

We know that the ask "ash tree" became As-  as in Asby near Rowrah. (It was probably never  askr in  Britain (Coates 1997)). However the earliest forms show As- and Es- until 1279. What if understanding the first element as ask(r) was an attempt to etymologise the name just as the later -patria was?
Aspatria most probably is Patric's Ash tree, but...

What could Aspatric be if purely Cumbric?
Edmonds cites the importance of the cult of St Patrick to the royal house of the kingdom of Strathclyde, leading to Gospatric (Patrick's servant in Cumbric) becoming a popular name in our area. She gives a list of forms of the name Gospatric, which also appears as  Waspatric (Edmonds 2013). In 1070 Hubert de Vallibus (Vaux) was granted Gilsland. He gave Denton to Wescop or Wesescop - from his name a local Cumbrian whose name looks equivalent to Welsh Gwasesgob (The Bishop's Servant). My point being that initial Cumbric  "g" can fail to appear in English renderings. This might be due to the vocative case "O Waspadrig!"  where the g- would be lost when calling someone. However, place-names such as the Wampool River, Poll Waðæn in Gospatric's Charter - Wathenpoll 1190 may come from a Cumbric word cognate with Welsh gwaeddan "one who cries". (cf the Norse name for the rivers Greta "Crying River") and Wampool also seems to show loss of intial g-. (though not w)

Therefore, tortuously, and tenatively, I had wondered whether Aspatric represented a Cumbric equivalent of Welsh Gwas-Padrig "Patrick's abode", where the initial gw- is not showing.  There are a number of Cumbric names nearby and the church is dedicated to St Kentigern (though this most probably dates from the expansion of the cult of Kentigern/Mungo in the time of David I). Kentigern was the, patron saint of the Cumbrian kingdom. So there is some evidence that there was a Cumbrian population  in this area around the time the name was coined.  James notes Guasmoric (in Welsh this would be Gwas Meurig") or "Meurig's Abode" as an old name for the Roman fort at Old Carlisle NY265465 some 9 miles to the north.

Gwas "abode" is discussed by James in his Dictionary (James 2016: 286)

However, there is no evidence of initial w-, which should be present if this is Was-Padrig.

As for loss of final -g (k when taken into English), we see this in Paisley which was Basaleg and in Greystoke which was "Crekestoc"  - it seems to happen inconsistently.
So Aspatric: A Norse name showing Celtic syntax and containing a name popular among the Cumbrian Britons, or a Norse take on Guaspadrig? Take your pick.

Wednesday, 27 April 2016

Newton Arlosh and Arlosh House NY 213 563 near Silloth

Arlosh House is just outside the hamlet of Newton Arlosh. Arlosk 1185, Arloske 1354, Arlossche 1332, Neutonarlosk' 1345

PNCu compares this to Cornish names such as Trelask (Trelosk 1272) and says the second element is Welsh llosg "burning". They futher say that the ar- is a British preposition ar "on, upon" or the intensive prefix, and they suggest that Arlosg therefore means a place cleared by burning. Deshayes lists three names with a similar element in Brittany - Coat-Losquer, Geurlosquer and Kerlosquer - though this seems to be equivalent to llosgwr "a burner" (Deshayes 1999). James (2012) reminds us that the original meaning of ar- was "facing, beside, in front of". He suggests a Cumbric losg (cf Welsh llosg) but also wonders about *lūsǭg as a lost stream name with the root as in Welsh llus "plant, herb". If it is based on a river name, then presumably the River Waver which now has an English name

Newton is clearly English and was 'new' because it was established in 1305 (Pevsner 1967) by the Abbey of Holm Cultram after the destruction of nearby Skinburness by flooding. (in 1301). The area must have been known as Arlosg before the New Town was founded there.


The group /sk/ was palatalised in Old English to /ʃ/ but in Northern dialects this was late or didn't happen sometimes due to Norse influence (Minkova 2013).